In the Yukon, the numbers are even lower. As described by Sandra MacDougall, a regional program manager for Highways and Public Works in Whitehorse who is very involved in the 30 by 30 program, there are 1100 professional engineers registered to practice in the Yukon. The figure to the left shows the percentage of newly licensed woman engineers as 44% in the Yukon, however, MacDougall points out that actually only 130 licensed engineers (both women and men) actually live in the Yukon. The rest work for consulting companies that travel to the Yukon. Of the 130 licensed engineers, 18 are women, so the percentage of women engineers in the Yukon is really only 14%. (It is unclear whether the map on the left includes women who are licensed in the Yukon but do not actually reside there.)